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Salty K. Pickles's avatar

This is awesome, Dylan. Some suggestions:

"The Reader over Your Shoulder: A Handbook for Writers of English Prose" by Robert Graves and Alan Hodge. Makes a moral case for clarity of expression. Wish I'd read it decades ago.

"Frank Sinatra Has a Cold," by Gay Talese. Gorgeous piece of nonfiction writing.

Anything by Mencken. That guy knew how to write a goddamn sentence.

Salty K. Pickles's avatar

and this should be the anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYvkICbTZIQ

Dylan O'Sullivan's avatar

Going to have a read of that Talese piece this afternoon. Great shout with regard to Mencken, I wonder if he's done any writing on his craft or creative process...

Salty K. Pickles's avatar

"Newspaper Days" was one of this memoirs

Stevie Sokrates's avatar

How does one achieve irony and invective that are pleasing rather peeving to readers? That's what I'm trying to learn from Vintage Mencken now.

Charlie Becker's avatar

Someday this will be a tremendously large and useful list, or maybe even a community. And I want to get in early with the first participatory comment and say: The Craft of Research by Booth is an excellent book. Super useful, written in a clear style that isn't too conversational. It is written in a way that an advanced high schooler could understand it, but I'm a decade into my academic career and still use/reference it regularly. I use it to teach an undergraduate research course. Beyond all this, it makes perhaps the best argument for "pure research" I've ever heard--in I think, chapter 3? Of the fifth edition? It outlines the difference between applied and pure research and gives a much needed full-chested celebration of how pure research is the one of the most intellectually rewarding activities any of us can engage in. I talk about it in issue nine of my newsletter: https://charliebecker.substack.com/i/57756334/the-importance-of-audience-and-the-merits-of-pure-research

Charlie Becker's avatar

Kinda funny I just re-read my own essay and a few lines had me slapping my leg in agreement with myself. Like, "Pure research is a bet on progress."

Dylan O'Sullivan's avatar

Your speaking my language, Charlie. Strange how often the old books feel new, while new books grow old fast

Oisín McIlroy's avatar

Incredible selection. Few recommendations for the collection:

- Paul Austre, "Why Write?" (New Yorker, 1995) https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/12/25/why-write

- Robert Caro, 'Working: Researching, Interviewing, Writing' (2019)

- Ros Atkins, 'The Art of Explaination: How to Communicate with Clarity and Confidence' (2023)

Dylan O'Sullivan's avatar

Hell yeah man, appreciate the additions

Patricia Hurducaș's avatar

wow, wow, wow ... Dylan, going through all this list is exhilarating.

Liberty's avatar

Off-topic, but I would guess that this is the longest single post on all of Substack as a platform 🤔

Dylan O'Sullivan's avatar

51,600 words and counting.

Perhaps so

Liberty's avatar

I'm not sure in number of words, but in number of pages/vertical length, probably!

Sean Newman's avatar

You do nothing by halves Dylan. Congratulations.

cubanant's avatar

when life get hard read harder

Alex Adamov's avatar

What an opening! In the land of abundance, providers of discernment shall be rewarded with a sub :)

Andrew Van Wyk's avatar

Truly admire what you're building Dylan. Some suggestions as you continue the later sections of screenwriting and fiction:

"On Writing" - Stephen King

"Writing for Emotional Impact" - Karl Iglesias

"Do Story" - Bobette Buster

"The Writer's Journey" - Christopher Vogler

"Story" - Robert McKee

Dylan O'Sullivan's avatar

McKee was one of the guys who got me in the game

Charlie Becker's avatar

Now that I've seen how you're approaching this, I think there are some missing under comedy. Specifically some of the following books on improv are not necessarily about writing, but since they are about improv they focus on creation, agreement, structure, and craft. Specifically, I would include:

- Truth in Comedy by Charna Halpern

- Impro by Keith Johnstone

- Improvise by Mick Napier

- Improvisation for the Theater by Viola Spolin

A few others about comedy:

- The American Language by H. L. Mencken

Depending on how far you want to stray from books strictly about craft, I would also consider Is This Anything by Jerry Seinfeld.

Charlie Becker's avatar

Also, unrelated to suggestions, but I would highly suggest publishing this in parallel on a place like Roam or Workflowy, where people can toggle, collapse, and search the lists. Would be happy to collab on building something like that with you.

Nick Jepsen's avatar

Love the article and the layout, but hate the gifs. I find it terribly difficult to read when there is a moving image in the middle of a text.

Jake's avatar

What was the Popper article you cite? I can’t seem to find it anywhere.

Edward Rooster's avatar

Bravo, Dylan, on this debut!

Dylan O'Sullivan's avatar

You're the man, Edward. Would love to get a look at your reading list